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Notulen PLATFORM September 14, 2002

Written by Remko Lodder (N1ghtW)
Attendended persons :

                RooT66: Frank, Bart, Stef, Jillis, Mitsai, Remko, Emiel, Gerard,

                Tom, Sepp

                Klaphek: Hans, Brenda

                Hackers4Hackers: Bas, Thijs

                Netric: ilja, Martijn, Casper

                Overigen: Peter, Steffen, Helena, Cliff, Tom.

Not Attended persons: mendel (BugBlue) (did inform us)
3 The Target of platform
3.1 Purpose

Frank says hi to all of us and directly asks us the first question:

What is the purpose of our PLATFORM?
After a reasonable discussion it was formulated that :

Platform has to be a community which improves technical

curiousity focused on the Netherlands.
After this some people shouted through the room about how to fill this purpose,

Frank commented:

We will discuss this later in this meeting.
3.2 image to the outside world
Frank also asked us about how we have to show ourselfs to the outside world:

Yet another discussion which resulted in:

PLATFORM has as image to the outside world:

‘At home we play, whatever we find will be published in a neath way’.
The discussion also resulted in:

We have to be OPEN to the outside world.

People must be able to see what is happening

inside the organisation, memberstructure and the rest of PLATFORM.
4 The filling in of PLATFORM
4.1
Ethics was scratched from the list as a standalone part,

and was inserted in every other point that was mentioned.

Ethics cant be given as a standalone part, it uses all the other points ,

as the opinion said.
Activities we came up with:
         Sociaal (Irc, Meetings)

         Knowledge (Howto’s)

         Projects (The thinking and executing of new ideas.)

         Matches (Hackme’s , Challenges)

         Public Relations (Giving out information to the press)
4.2 Relations to the gouvernement,media and company’s
Next it was need to discus how our relation to the gourvernement,

media and company’s has to be.

The answer was:

We start doing above steps when they come to us.

They will be redirected to our PR staff.

Each individual will redirect all questions etc to the PR staff which give out the

opinion of PLATFORM.
4.3 Organisation of PLATFORM
The next question that we came up with:

if PLATFORM exists how will it be coordinated?

That is a required part of the whole PLATFORM.

As a group we came up with the solution:

There will a core group of invididuals who will be the daily coordinators of PLATFORM.

These individuals will have regular meetings in which they discuss the continuance of

PLATFORM.
When needed they will also direct the persons which will fill in the commissions which

have to be formed, the reason for this is that it has to be done with a certain timeframe.

Futhermore there will be as said formed some commissions who will direct the persons in

the activity. Also they will be responsible for the success of a project.

These persons also claim resources for certain requests.
Now follows a question round, in which persons can decide in which commission

he will participate.

After that will be decided who will be in the core group.

The commissions are made will be related to the formed activity’s.
For Public Relations Helena en Stefje will lead.

For Social: Mitsai, Frank, Steffen

For Knowledge: Peter, Jillis, Brenda

For Challenges: Bas, Thijs, Ilja

For the Projects Coolvibe, Atje en Netric will be giving lead..
From the groups , Mitsai, Thijs, Atje, Helena, Jillis were chosen to be in the core group.
This group is now responsible for PLATFORM.
A break was issued to order some food.
5 Stop or Go opinion
While we wait for the food, there is a Stop / Go question round which motivation why:
Everybody actually said that we are willing to GO for it if persons are doing stuff for it,

nobody wants to do something of other persons from the team dont do anything about it.

That will be the main issue:

We are dependend on the activity’s from others and the core group has to give the

correct direction.
2 Persons did not agree with PLATFORM:

Bart, i dont agree with the filling in of PLATFORM,

Tom (Stimpy from the other’s team): I cant join more meetings and i dont have enough

time for it.
While everybody gave his opinion Bas thinks there are some doubts between

attendencees about the success of PLATFORM.

From experiences the attendencees are afraid that it will go wrong, so they are a

little carefull about the project.

We have to see what it will bring.
6 Food.

Taken down the list
7 Stop or Go beslissing
The second Stop/Go round was passed since the opinions where clear: GO
8 Decide the in-depth of PLATFORM
8.1 & 8.2 Main activity’s and activity’s per Main activity’s.

Frank asks the rest of the attendencees to think about how the activity groups can be

filled with actual activity’s.
Everybody was asked the question whether he / she has an idea which can be taken in

a activity group.
Social:

A IRC channel has to be created with the name of PLATFORM.

Also meetings will be arranged which have the goal to bring people closer to eachother

and to see who is who. Another point which hangs around meetings is Social Control,

people will talk about made mistakes, which has more impact than over IRC or through a

mobile phone.

Flyers, Ad’s on schools, hospitals, other public buildings:

With this we can target our group and attract new persons to PLATFORM.
Projects:

To setup VPN’s so people can join it.

The attended servers can be subducted by technical analyses or tests in the VPN.

This VPN will be totally be shut of from the outside world because you dont want to

have ‘bad’ persons in this.

Knowledge database: To build a open source website focused on the

Dutch Language (because we are a dutch group).
Knowlegde:

Build Hackme’s so that new people have a challenge and can obtain knowledge to

beat the hackme’s.

Practical: There will be given practical’s to improve current knowledge or for testing

your current knowledge.

Readouts to the targetgroup: We can give education to people who require it or are

interested in these science.

Phreaking: example: lockpicking how’to’s must be given (about the technics which

is behind it).
Matches:

Developping challenges and participation of challenges (code matches).
Now this is done we will fill the rest of the points when PLATFORM is a week or 2

old to see who wants to do what in which activity group and how that must be coordinated.
The food arrived and Frank comments that the meeting is over because there are

no more points left
On behalf of Frank, thanks for joining this first PLATFORM meeting,

see ya on the next one

written by Remko